by xp84 on 11/29/23, 10:23 PM
I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things).
This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.
by owenpalmer on 11/29/23, 11:18 PM
This is what we call vehicle weight inflation. As cars get heavier and heavier, the roads get increasingly more dangerous for smaller cars, which causes everyone to get bigger cars. And the loop continues.
by nojvek on 11/30/23, 6:58 PM
1kg of petrol/gasoline is ~48MJ.
1kg of Lithim-ion battery is ~0.25MJ/kg.
Gasoline is ~192X energy dense compared to Lithium-ion batteries. Li-on is the most popular battery due to its cost and weight.
In terms of weight:
Tesla model Y = ~4,500 lbs.
F-150 lightning = ~6,500 lbs.
Rivian R1T = ~7,000 lbs.
Hummer EV = ~9,000 lbs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Cybertruck = ~5,400 lbs
A human roughly weighs 160lbs (~72kg).
Buying electric trucks IMO is pretty awful for the environment and the road itself. From the energy spent mining the raw materials for that heavy of a battery, to energy spent just moving that battery. The battery weighs more than the passengers.
We're playing stupid games to win stupid prizes in the name of climate change.
by andy_xor_andrew on 11/29/23, 10:30 PM
If it is a great car, but flops because it looks weird, that's a shame.
If it's a terribly-built car, with reliability issues, and a super difficult production cycle, that's a shame, but for a different reason: you'd think after the snafu over the Model X, where certain features (the X-wing doors) were a production nightmare and ballooned the cost and tanked the reliability, they wouldn't make the same mistake again. But if that is the case here, then they did make the same mistake, but even bigger and with worse consequences.
But ignoring all that, at least it's different, and I'm rooting for its success. If it fails, though, most likely Tesla will only have themselves to blame.
by fermentation on 11/29/23, 10:28 PM
Sure looks dangerous for pedestrians
by ftufek on 11/29/23, 10:27 PM
I've been seeing a bunch of them in Bay Area, I thought it was already launched and started deliveries. In person, it looks like something out of a movie set.
by MaximilianEmel on 11/29/23, 10:49 PM
The main thing I really dislike is the lack of buttons and dials. It looks to be just a single touchscreen in the center for everything.
by kylehotchkiss on 11/30/23, 4:48 PM
I saw one at the mall last week. Much bigger than I expected. Like bigger than a Tundra. I don’t get it. You can’t fit much in the back. A lot of people like how traditional trucks look and this is a big departure. I hope insurance companies jack up their rates for these things, it’s going to destroy everything it contacts.
by twostorytower on 11/29/23, 11:52 PM
I just wish they kept the ultrasonic sensors instead of solely relying on Tesla Vision. That was a huge mistake and they refuse to acknowledge it and instead insist Vision is better and all that is necessary. It's an inferior product.
by RamblingCTO on 11/30/23, 3:33 PM
Really glad this ugly POS probably won't be street-legal in Europe. Just look at the old Defender 2016. And that has no sharp edges or reflective surfaces.
by Pr0ject217 on 11/29/23, 11:01 PM
by datadrivenangel on 11/29/23, 10:24 PM
I'm amazed that they actually made it happen!
Hopefully this gets us more cool car designs.
by 1970-01-01 on 11/29/23, 10:47 PM
These launch countdowns are silly. Yes, you're going to be really cool the first year or so with that Cybertruck. But after you go to a party and five other people have one, (1,000,000+ reservations since 2019) it'll seem much less alluring.
by bilsbie on 11/29/23, 10:46 PM
I’m buying one because I was born too late to own a delorean.
by whalesalad on 11/29/23, 10:26 PM
My biggest gripe is the wheel covers. They make this look like a ridiculous Robocop movie prop.
by MagicMoonlight on 11/29/23, 11:26 PM
The outside look of it is really terrible. It's like someone made a rough sketch of a truck and then told the team to build that exact sketch. Which is almost certainly what actually happened.
by ramesh31 on 11/29/23, 10:42 PM
I understand the nostalgia for those rock solid steel bumpered behemoths people used to drive. Knocking your bumper on the curb and shelling out a few grand for some plastic sucks. But think just for a moment about how the physics of that equation work out. There's 3 tons of rolling steel coming to a stop, and something's gotta give. It's either the car, or you.
Best of luck to anyone who drives ones of these. I'll be interested to see the NHTSA results.
by ClassyJacket on 11/29/23, 11:29 PM
I still think that if Tesla has figured out a way of making pointy metal cars, they should buy the Delorean IP and bring it back as an electric car.
by NotYourLawyer on 11/29/23, 10:20 PM
by alienicecream on 11/30/23, 1:57 PM
by anonymousiam on 11/30/23, 1:57 AM
Placed an order on announce day. My main reason was the 500 mile range (for the tri-motor variant). As much as I'd like to buy the thing, if the range offered doesn't meet or exceed the promised value, I'll cancel my order and get my $100 back. If it does meet spec, I've got a check ready.
by 29athrowaway on 11/29/23, 11:57 PM
Is this vehicle even street legal? no crumple zones?
by aaroninsf on 11/30/23, 10:44 PM
Pet theory: Musk's justly hated destruction of Twitter,
and accelerating descent into open literal racism and antisemitism,
are both meant to distract from the stupidity and imminent utter failure of the abomination that is the Cybertruck.
by wnevets on 11/29/23, 10:33 PM
does it have sub 10-micron accuracy?
by Lammy on 11/30/23, 12:05 AM
I love how the Cybertruck looks like something out of a SEGA Saturn game, but I still don't want any EV from any manufacturer until I can get one that won't spy on me.
by Retr0id on 11/29/23, 11:40 PM
I dunno if it's just my system fonts, but the numeric digits are not all the same width, so the clock jumps around slightly as it changes.
by malwrar on 11/30/23, 4:58 PM
I know nothing about the actually physics, but all those polygonal, angled surfaces remind me of the chapter in Ben Rich’s skunkworks book about how a lot of the radar-defeating properties of the F-117 was due to the similar-looking geometry of the plane. I wonder if cops will discover it’s weirdly hard to speed check these :P
by ozten on 11/30/23, 7:53 PM
Who is the ideal customer for this thing? Construction worker? Off roader? Camper? Home improvement person?
by AlbertoGP on 11/30/23, 8:00 PM
Clicked on “Watch livestream”, denied because it demands login on X/Twitter.
by mortallywounded on 11/29/23, 11:32 PM
by aussiegreenie on 11/30/23, 7:14 PM
Anyone who buys a Cybertruck "Go fuck themselves"
by kjellsbells on 11/29/23, 11:52 PM
I happen to think that Musk is a loon, but I am rooting for the success of the truck, because, in the US, truck buyers are a super conservative bunch, and if you win them over, then the EV transition really kicks in. Truck buyers cannot afford machines that get between them and earning their livelihood.
The question for me is whether this, and the Ford F150 Lightning, are poser trucks, or genuine work trucks. Its winning at the latter that is important. Can they drive on non paved surfaces like construction sites? Can they carry a full sheet of drywall? Can they tow a horse box? Are there weird protuberances that are going to get a accidentally smashed by a kid trying to load a 2x4? Are there accessories like tool boxes available? Will it start at 4am in a Minnesota winter? I'm more convinced by the F150 here than the Cybertruck, but I'm waiting for real people to allocate real scarce resource to buy it rather than tech bros with excess cash.
by Seanambers on 11/29/23, 11:31 PM
It's gonna be success, but I bet maybe 2nd to 3rd iteration is when they will dominate.
by rvz on 11/30/23, 12:10 AM
The Tesla fans (and their haters) will still buy one anyway.
by Daunk on 11/29/23, 11:28 PM
Cars kept solely for convenience should be eliminated.
by nkotov on 11/30/23, 12:25 AM
I had a chance to see it in person at the local Tesla Charlotte showroom. It's a lot longer than I anticipated but definitely a lot shorter that I thought it would be.
by cryptoz on 11/29/23, 11:27 PM
Announcement of an announcement; flagged
cc @dang
by honeybadger1 on 11/30/23, 2:00 AM
I honestly can't wait to have mine, I was in very early on one and now that I have seen it in person..I am so jazzed for it.
by alexalx666 on 11/30/23, 6:45 PM
it's denial of curves is refreshing.
by yinser on 11/29/23, 11:42 PM
I wish I had popcorn for this collective exhale of vitriol.
by jehb on 11/29/23, 11:12 PM
I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced.
I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.
by slowhadoken on 11/29/23, 10:37 PM
Prediction: if it does poorly people will call Musk a failure. If it does well people will call Musk a grifter. Either way people will be salty.
by mensetmanusman on 11/29/23, 11:45 PM
We welcome any and all creative attempts to convince the public to use evs, which are massively piling up on dealer lots.