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N8n raises $180M

by doppp on 10/9/25, 9:19 AM with 184 comments

  • by seer on 10/9/25, 4:23 PM

    While n8n is amazing for the odd office automation and giving semi-technical people an enormously powerful tool to get things done, it seems it can’t really replace a real backend, and mostly because of the n8n team choices than any technology.

    We were trailing it and wanted to essentially switch our entire backend to it - and technically it seemed to be able to do the job, but their licensing turned out to not be a fit.

    For a moderately used app we very quickly burned through their “executions” that were allotted by our license - and that’s where we host it ourselves, configuring and paying for the servers, load balancers, key value store and database, with its failovers and backups.

    So the license was to use it on top of all that, and even their highest enterprise license was cutting it close, and if you “run out” of these executions, the service just stops working …

    And all of that would have been fair if it was hosted, but sounds ludicrous to me for something we self host.

    I think it is an incredible piece of tech, but just not suited for a dynamic startup, and once we spent the time to code up the alternative paths for our use cases, it no longer made sense to use n8n at all, as we mostly solved all the problems it was helping us with.

  • by cube2222 on 10/9/25, 11:23 AM

    Kudos to the n8n team! Seems like the focus is increasingly shifting to AI.

    Question to folks who’ve used n8n extensively, I’m curious, what are your experiences with n8n, and how much does it end up being a web of verbose “visual python” in practice?

    I’m very much biased here and have a vested interest, because I’ve been working on a new product not far from this space, but much more oriented at technical users (platform engineers, primarily, see [0] and [1] for a shameless plug, not released yet), but really, I’m curious about what experiences folks have had here, and what your main issues with it were, esp. if you used it in a platform/devops engineering role, or maybe why you decided not to use it.

    [0]: https://spacelift.io/flows

    [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZHGg1QIAQk

  • by viraptor on 10/9/25, 11:23 AM

    Shame it's not FOSS. There's still https://www.windmill.dev/ though.
  • by BobbyTables2 on 10/9/25, 3:11 PM

    For me the Math isn’t Mathing.

    Hiring 50 fairly well paid developers is roughly $15M/year, maybe more if one insists on SV compensation which always seem a bit absurd.

    $240M total funding is a lot of money. They’ve only been around for about 5 years and probably didn’t start out fully staffed.

    So they’re basically covered for the next 10-15 years even if they had zero sales ?

    Having 500 employees won’t speed things up and would actually slow down development - so why so much funding?

    Or who actually waits that long? The first version of Windows 10 was released about 10 years ago and soon will be EOL.

    I feel software investment is like some oil ETFs — there is more investment money than the thing to invest in…

  • by BoredPositron on 10/9/25, 10:57 AM

    5000 n8n workflows that made me millions. 1 n8n workflow that made me 5k per hour...

    It's an okay product I appreciate that it's selfhosted with good documentation but they absolutely destroyed their brand with excessive affiliate marketing and now nothing of substance is left if you search for it anywhere.

  • by ishikawa on 10/9/25, 5:03 PM

    What surprised me the most was to know the company is from Germany. That shows that with a good product you don't need necessarily to be in the US.
  • by alluro2 on 10/10/25, 9:14 AM

    One thing I don't get fully is people that say "it's easier to write code" - we use n8n for workflow orchestration - a junior developer can put together some nodes to e.g. get data from an API, transform it (by writing code), prepare a CSV, send an email. In about an hour. You then have a workflow that you set to run every night at 2am, and that you can open, understand visually at a glance, modify, and continue running without any other actions required. All self-hosted on a small VM.

    Alternative would be writing custom code, deploying it somewhere, setting it to run automatically on schedule somehow, and modifying it and redeploying through a dozen steps every time.

    Of course there is docker and cron and deployment scripts - but all of that is not needed with n8n for these kinds of use-cases.

    For me, that's the primary value of n8n - nodes themselves are nice-to-have shortcuts, some of the time. Maybe I'm not familiar with tools that make it easy to "just write code" and have everything else (deployment, orchestration etc) covered?

  • by tomasphan on 10/9/25, 8:00 PM

    Question for n8n and other orchestration tool users: Why not use an LLM to vibe code the orchestration? Is it still hard to host or not mature enough? I tried n8n but found it easier and cheaper to have Claude code something and then throw it in docker as API that I could interact with. Tool integrations were also easy to vibe code. I am maybe more technical than the average n8n user? Not sure
  • by mattfrommars on 10/9/25, 11:23 AM

    I have come to realize these drag and drop no code solution are good for low complexity solution. If project scales, it is better to write code.

    I kid you not, we use another no code solution at work and it was originally meant for PM to create workflows. It came to us the devs to make it and we resent daily working on it.

    Our life would have been much similar if our workflows had been written in code.

  • by skrtskrt on 10/9/25, 3:41 PM

    Here come the HN comments from people that work at closed source companies or companies that profit off the free labor of open source devs, wailing and gnashing their teeth that it's not the purest form of open source blessed by Stallman himself and therefore is radioactive and doomed to fail.
  • by nirav72 on 10/9/25, 5:15 PM

    I’ve used n8n for local adhoc automation. They had a nice desktop version and had this neat option to export the flow and run it standalone. They got rid of the desktop version. Not sure if there is option to run standalone flows now without hosting the entire n8n app in a container.
  • by kamranjon on 10/9/25, 10:59 AM

    I’m just wondering if anyone that is closer to this space could shed some light on if this $2.5B valuation seems more or less accurate? I have played around with n8n - I just didn’t know if it was ubiquitous/profitable. $180m round seemed pretty huge but maybe it’s really a unicorn?
  • by foundart on 10/9/25, 3:33 PM

    Just participated in a hackathon where my team used n8n. We found it didn't have good connectors for getting data from Kinesis streams or Slack. Given the abbreviated timeline of the hackathon we ended up simulating the Kinesis input and dropping the interactive Slack part of our project, which was unfortunate.

    I hope they spend a good bit of the $180M on building out their input connectors.

  • by Towaway69 on 10/9/25, 5:26 PM

    So what is the exit strategy? Sell to OpenAI or NVIDIA?

    Or will this become a white elephant too large too sell like Zalando?

    Whatever happened to IFTTT?

    Edit: It’s a valuation of 2.5 Billion - hence my question. There is snowballs chance that they will ever be worth that much. They are SaaS and not consumer products. They have no side gig like amazon or google - they have a single product in a tight market.

  • by user3113 on 10/9/25, 11:17 AM

    I made something similar to n8n. its not visual but it helps you automate things. https://rapidforge.io/. Despite they are visual they also have learning curve. I think most of these tools are great but I feel they are overvalued. Its my take I might be wrong.
  • by dvcoolarun on 10/9/25, 4:27 PM

    Two days ago, with the launch of OpenAI’s AgentKit, people were claiming that similar tools and startups would become obsolete.

    I think the pie is big enough for everyone to benefit.

    I haven’t tried these agent-and-connector-based approaches yet — where should someone start to get a good grasp of this kind of automation?

  • by elAhmo on 10/9/25, 3:01 PM

    That is a lot of money! Seems like a great product, but for something that there is plenty of alternatives or players in a similar space, it is hard to see how this money wont be spent to just increase sales / AI push, which is not necessarily a good thing.
  • by rustoo on 10/9/25, 3:12 PM

    This is such great news.

    My question to non-tech folks who used n8n, especially marketers: what has been your experience with n8n? Did it help you automate creative things like blogs, newsletters, white papers, etc? What tips would you give about n8n?

  • by simlevesque on 10/9/25, 1:22 PM

    It's pronounced Nathan ?
  • by phrotoma on 10/9/25, 11:00 AM

    What is this thing? IFTTT?
  • by nomilk on 10/9/25, 11:15 AM

    147k stars and currently the 38th most starred repo on all of GitHub [0, 1]. Seems odd that a project has so many stars yet is largely unfamiliar to much of HN (corrections appreciated).

    I asked an LLM if there's ways to detect suspicious starring activity (e.g. if stars were purchased). It suggested checking the project's star history [2] (doesn't appear suspicious).

    It also suggested the stars to issues ratio. n8n has 147k:6k (about 25:1) compared to, say, rails with 57k stars and 18k issues (about 3:1).

    I haven't looked deeply into n8n (is it 'no-code' for building agents?). I just see hype and am default skeptical.

    [0] https://github.com/n8n-io/n8n

    [1] https://github.com/EvanLi/Github-Ranking/blob/master/Top100/...

    [2] https://www.star-history.com/#n8n-io/n8n&Date