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US falls out of 10 most powerful passports list for first time in 20 yrs

by teleforce on 10/18/25, 12:40 PM with 98 comments

  • by BirAdam on 10/18/25, 1:58 PM

    I agree that Dual Citizenship is a dream among a large plurality of Americans, but I don’t think it’s for Visa-free tourism. I think it’s because a growing number of Americans feel that the country is unstable and likely headed toward a failed-state status.
  • by khuey on 10/18/25, 2:31 PM

    More applicable to the average American traveler's life than whether they can visit 180 or 181 countries without a visa is the rise of electronic travel authorization requirements from other countries. The UK imposed one earlier this year and the EU is set to do the same next year (though ETIAS seems perpetually delayed). While everyone involved (except Australia) insists that electronic travel authorizations are not visas they are for all practical purposes.
  • by gp on 10/18/25, 1:36 PM

    There are multiple ties in the list that actually put the US passport tied for 37th in the ranking.

    https://www.henleyglobal.com/passport-index/ranking

  • by latexr on 10/18/25, 12:44 PM

    The measure for how “powerful” a passport is:

    > The Henley Passport Index is the original, authoritative ranking of all the world’s passports according to the number of destinations their holders can access without a prior visa.

    https://www.henleyglobal.com/passport-index

    According to the article, the US passport was at the top of the list a decade ago, last year it was in seventh place, and now it’s in twelfth.

  • by Argonaut998 on 10/18/25, 2:55 PM

    Tourism metrics are pointless and I'm surprised no one thought of a better way to measure these rankings involving freedom to work, freedom to live, access to embassies, geopolitical power etc
  • by Havoc on 10/18/25, 2:02 PM

    tbh anything in the top 25% of the listing is more or less the same. You need to travel to some pretty exotic places to hit difference.

    Still, the US certainly isn't doing itself any favours on rep lately

  • by NaOH on 10/18/25, 2:06 PM

    Two days ago:

    US Passport Power Falls to Historic Low - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45595746 - Oct 2025 (169 comments)

  • by graemep on 10/18/25, 1:54 PM

    Its a very simplistic measure. How easy it is to get visas is at least as important. From a practical point of view allow dual nationality is a big convenience.
  • by tim333 on 10/19/25, 10:03 AM

    The "powerful" thing is just a count of how many countries do visa free entry. A lot of such deals are reciprocal so if the US is giving foreigners a hard time visiting it's likely some countries will make it harder for them.
  • by wslh on 10/18/25, 2:39 PM

    For a one-click list of the index, go to <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henley_Passport_Index> instead of Heinley's site.
  • by ChrisArchitect on 10/18/25, 5:35 PM

  • by Thaxll on 10/18/25, 1:59 PM

    This list is useless, it's much better to have a US / Can / EU passport than Singapore for example, Singapore has 50 overseas missions world-wide, for instance France has 280, good luck if you're in trouble oversea.
  • by Razengan on 10/18/25, 6:18 PM

    It should be a basic human right for people to go or live anywhere they want as long as they can support themselves and adhere to local law and customs.

    The way it was for tens of thousands of years before the last couple centuries.

  • by gethly on 10/18/25, 2:02 PM

    It is very weird list when dozens of countries reside on the same spot in the list. It would make more sense to have levels or ratings, instead of places.
  • by newswangerd on 10/18/25, 2:12 PM

    I’ve always argued that the US is the most powerful passport despite not granting access to the most countries for one simple reason: it’s one of only half a dozen passports that lets you visit the US visa free.
  • by victor106 on 10/18/25, 1:56 PM

    Does this really matter? US is the most powerful country in the world economically and militarily and maybe even culturally.