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US axes website for reporting human rights abuses by US-armed foreign forces

by tartoran on 10/23/25, 2:25 PM with 409 comments

  • by notmyjob on 10/23/25, 3:25 PM

    It sounds like this was mainly being used to report abuses by US allies, ie “US armed IDF forces” according to the article. Obviously there is something more to this than the headline and tone of the piece indicate. For one thing, the law written by Leahy was passed in 2011, but this website went online in 2022, so how can removing the site make it impossible to abide by the law? What was going on between 2011 and 2022 than is different from now?

    I’m concerned about human rights, but I’m equally concerned about yellow journalism or coordinated media bias.

    From a practical standpoint, this is why Wikileaks matters. Rather than count on the State department to serve that role, we should count on independent journalists like Glen Greenwald and outlets like Wikileaks who are reliably independent.

  • by nla on 10/23/25, 3:30 PM

    The Leahy Law requires the U.S. government to facilitate receipt of information about alleged abuses by U.S. supported forces.

    The State Department confirms it no longer operates the HRG, but says it is still receiving reports through other direct channels.

    I couldn't find any requirement in the law that requires a public website.

    NGOs can still submit information through established contacts or by email.

    I would think email is a lot easier than a webform.

  • by docdeek on 10/23/25, 3:11 PM

    This seems like a bad decision to me. Not only does it seem not to be in the spirit of the law (you can still report but not as easily now) but it's not clear why they shut it down at all. Cost? Inefficiency? Just wasn't getting used much? They have a better solution?

    On the other hand, the US seems so partisan now that had the current administration told the world they were taking huma' rights abuse reporting seriously by creating a web form, some people would probably be criticized for that, too.

  • by mikeyouse on 10/23/25, 2:35 PM

    > Tim Rieser, former senior aide to Senator Leahy who wrote the 2011 amendment mandating information gathering, told the BBC the gateway's removal meant the State Department was "clearly ignoring the law".

    We're in a really bad place... with a servile congress, it turns out there aren't really any laws constraining the executive branch. When everything relies on "independent IGs" for law enforcement inside executive branch departments, and the President can fire them all without consequence or oversight, then it turns out there is no law.

  • by liampulles on 10/23/25, 2:54 PM

    While there may well not have been ethical intentions behind this removal (who knows), I think reporting to the press directly is probably better than reporting it to a government, so as to avoid giving the government a chance to cover things up.
  • by wnevets on 10/23/25, 2:57 PM

    Is this the greatness I was promised?
  • by jimnotgym on 10/23/25, 4:18 PM

    They should have just claimed it was hosted on AWS
  • by kome on 10/23/25, 2:46 PM

    The whole WikiLeaks affair about "Collateral Murder" was also about hiding U.S. war crimes. US army goes a long way to hide that stuff...

    It was followed by a decade of ridiculous but very effective character assassination of Assange, who is hated based on how dislikable he appears.

    I recommend youngsters and "zoomers" read about it, because the recent past is often the most forgotten: https://collateralmurder.wikileaks.org/

  • by blibble on 10/23/25, 2:56 PM

    the Mitchell and Webb "are we the baddies" sketch certainly comes to mind here
  • by ARandomerDude on 10/23/25, 4:45 PM

    > US-armed foreign forces

    means Israel.

  • by hirvi74 on 10/23/25, 2:34 PM

    Not that I agree with this decision, but is there any evidence that these reports yielded any consequences? Or rather, was it one of those, "After conducting an internal investigation, we have determined we did nothing wrong" kind of things?
  • by alluro2 on 10/23/25, 4:19 PM

    Trump is, inevitably, in the comments a lot.

    And I'm just surprised when people still react to what he does as "unbelievable", "illegal" etc... I get it, but it's weird how persistently people still try to frame Trump's actions into moral, legal, historical, cultural, responsibility or any other framework.

    He is someone who was born into wealth in the worst way possible, and was never - ever - subject to any moral restrictions, material consequences, or requirements that depend on any positive qualities, effort or success.

    In those conditions, his bullish way of behaving always got him what he wanted in the moment, without any downsides or counter-weight that would regulate it. Time after time, he was given proof - by us, the society - that there are no consequences, or they are just so unimpactful, and that he can continue doing what he does. There is no framework that he needed to adhere to.

    He was then placed into practically the same position within the government - being able to do whatever he wants and benefits him (directly, or through benefitting his posse), and there will be no material consequences of any kind. If he comes up to any inconvenient restrictions put in place before, they can just be removed first.

    And that's it, that's what he's been doing all along. He doesn't have any higher interests, any ulterior motivation, or ambitions - in every situation, he just uses it to get something for himself in that moment - even if openly solely to be able to brag that he did it - and he makes himself look big by lying or belittling others, and that's it. Just a very simple unrestricted narcissist, on grander scale.

    Their behavior is quite simple to understand and predict. It's just that they can rarely be SO up there, so unrestricted, that people still seem to struggle to not try to tie him to norms and frameworks.

  • by ea550ff70a on 10/23/25, 4:39 PM

    are we the baddies?
  • by redleggedfrog on 10/23/25, 3:28 PM

    Just making sure there is less noise when they start (already started) using U.S.-armed U.S. forces here in the U.S. to oppress people they don't like - non-Magazis, people without white skin, non-Christians, non-straight, and the poor. It's a lot quieter to disappear people when no one can report it and there isn't anyone to appeal to anyway.

    Who's going to protect you now America? Federal government, police, your Mom? Nope nope nope. You noodle armed programmer geeks need to break out your 2nd Amendment rights and get strapped.

  • by g-b-r on 10/23/25, 7:02 PM

    This is recent and has more votes than all but one the posts in the front page, why is it not there?
  • by efitz on 10/23/25, 4:33 PM

    So there is no other way of reporting such abuses? This one web site that nobody had heard of before today, was our sole way of hearing complaints of this type?

    Why is it that eliminating one particular web site is somehow a failure of the US Constitution?

    Yes, Congress is dysfunctional. Welcome to the post 17th amendment world. Repeal that and make the House truly proportional instead of artificially limiting it to 435 members and you’ll go a long way towards fixing a lot of the current problems. Eliminate PACs and donation caps and enforce KYC for donations and we can see who is actually buying our legislators.

    But on the main topic, the left in the US is seeking judicial intervention to block nearly every single action that the administration takes, and district court judges are handing down nationwide injunctions against the president on a weekly basis. If this is such a crisis, then go judge shopping and get an injunction.

  • by 23david on 10/23/25, 3:41 PM

    interesting story, but why is this on HN.
  • by brianblaze420 on 10/23/25, 3:28 PM

    It's hard to not laugh at this. Like it's so fucking stupid and up to par with what's going on.
  • by watwut on 10/23/25, 3:18 PM

    I mean, the minister of war was clear where he stand on these. They are manly acts manly man armies commit.
  • by chinathrow on 10/23/25, 4:14 PM

    The current playbook is so clear and open - it's hard to miss all the red flags.
  • by excalibur on 10/23/25, 2:31 PM

    Because the US government is no longer even pretending to care about human rights.
  • by cakeday on 10/23/25, 4:03 PM

    So many far left conspiracy theories in here, blatant false accusations, assertions and wild fallacies.
  • by wonderwonder on 10/23/25, 3:09 PM

    Lots of people seem to think Trump is some sort of king or going outside the law. Fact is he was democratically elected and working within the system of checks and balances established by our founders. Congress can stop him from doing things but the democratically elected congress allows him to continue. So they agree with his actions and are doing their job. Checked and balanced.

    The courts can stop him and indeed have in several cases. Often times higher courts over rule those lower ones but not always. Majority of the time they eventually end up siding with the executive branch though. So courts are doing their job. Checked and balanced.

    Every check and balance is working its just not making decisions the left agrees with. This is indeed what democracy looks like though.

    Mid terms are coming up and the people will once again have a chance to voice their opinion.

    Note: I have been hit by the HN "posting to fast" limit so I can't respond.

  • by SoftTalker on 10/23/25, 2:55 PM

    Not that I know, but I could imagine that a public/anonymous form on the web (if that's what it was) was receiving 99.8% bot/garbage/spam/nuisance reports and they took it down for that reason. Though nothing in the article gives that as a reason, and quotes only the rather vague statement that "the US State Department insisted it was continuing to receive reports regarding gross violations of human rights and was engaging with "credible organisations" on a full spectrum of human rights concerns."